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William
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« on: Aug 20, 2008 at 02:59 »

As a dealer, how do you announce the Flop?

Do you just give the values of the cards? Or do you also announce the suits?

Does it change when 2 or more cards are the same suit?

 5 of diamonds jack of hearts ten of spades

Announce:
Five-Jack-Ten
Five of Diamonds - Jack of Hearts - Ten of Spades

 ace of hearts king of hearts king of clubs

Announce:
Ace-King-King
Ace-King-King two Hearts
Ace-King of Hearts, King of Clubs
Ace of Hearts - King of Hearts - King of Clubs

 king of diamonds 8 of hearts 6 of diamonds

Announce:
King-Eight-Six
King-Eight-Six two Diamonds
King-Six of Diamonds - Eight of Hearts
King of Diamonds - Eight of Hearts - Six of Diamonds

 9 of clubs queen of clubs ten of clubs

Announce:
Nine-Queen-Ten
Nine-Queen-Ten all Clubs
Nine of Clubs - Queen of Clubs - Ten of Clubs
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« Reply #1 on: Aug 20, 2008 at 04:24 »

Left card rank and suit, center card rank and suit, right card rank and suit and that's it. Never "a possible Flush draw on board" or "three to a Straight" or anything like that. These are things that are likely painfully obvious to anyone in the hand but saying anything that could possibly help a player is overstepping the duties of a dealer.
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« Reply #2 on: Aug 20, 2008 at 04:36 »

i never announce the board cards unless someone asks me what they are.
then i state each card by value and then suit.

"ace of diamonds, king of spades, jack of hearts."
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« Reply #3 on: Aug 20, 2008 at 04:58 »

Never "a possible Flush draw on board" or "three to a Straight" or anything like that.

Absolutely. You never ever comment on the board.
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« Reply #4 on: Aug 20, 2008 at 10:54 »

I don't announce anything unless the guy at the end of the table is clearly having trouble seeing the board (standing up, quinting, etc.)  Then I announce K-3-7 (in the order flopped, not in rank order), rainbow/two hearts, etc.
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« Reply #5 on: Aug 20, 2008 at 19:51 »

I don't announce anything unless the guy at the end of the table is clearly having trouble seeing the board (standing up, quinting, etc.)  Then I announce K-3-7 (in the order flopped, not in rank order), rainbow/two hearts, etc.

I've got glasses now, please get off my a$$........... Wink
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« Reply #6 on: Aug 21, 2008 at 04:42 »

Don't announce. (I think it's in The Professional Poker Dealers Handbook, but not 100% sure, but I have it in my dealer training notes.)

If a player has problems seeing the flop and asks for it, read the cards one at a time, from left to right, just as Freelancer72 says.
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« Reply #7 on: Aug 21, 2008 at 04:57 »

Check. No announcing unless asked for, and then card by card left to right.

I've been watching too much Poker on TV. I guess I confused the commentators with the dealer.

Thanks all Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: Aug 21, 2008 at 11:23 »

I don't announce anything unless the guy at the end of the table is clearly having trouble seeing the board (standing up, quinting, etc.)  Then I announce K-3-7 (in the order flopped, not in rank order), rainbow/two hearts, etc.

I've got glasses now, please get off my a$$........... Wink

lol,
that really does chap my ass though. I have a guy who has to stand up and squint for every single flop, turn and river and then he has to lean back, stoop and pinch his cards or he holds them to his chest.

it's like playing with mr freakin magoo.
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« Reply #9 on: Aug 21, 2008 at 13:41 »

I don't announce anything unless the guy at the end of the table is clearly having trouble seeing the board (standing up, quinting, etc.)  Then I announce K-3-7 (in the order flopped, not in rank order), rainbow/two hearts, etc.

I've got glasses now, please get off my a$$........... Wink

lol,
that really does chap my ass though. I have a guy who has to stand up and squint for every single flop, turn and river and then he has to lean back, stoop and pinch his cards or he holds them to his chest.

it's like playing with mr freakin magoo.


get the poor guy a seat closer to the middle of the table lmfao Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: Aug 21, 2008 at 17:41 »

I don't announce anything unless the guy at the end of the table is clearly having trouble seeing the board (standing up, quinting, etc.)  Then I announce K-3-7 (in the order flopped, not in rank order), rainbow/two hearts, etc.

I've got glasses now, please get off my a$$........... Wink

lol,
that really does chap my ass though. I have a guy who has to stand up and squint for every single flop, turn and river and then he has to lean back, stoop and pinch his cards or he holds them to his chest.

it's like playing with mr freakin magoo.


get the poor guy a seat closer to the middle of the table lmfao Smiley

Or some of those huge magnum index cards...ugh Cheesy
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« Reply #11 on: Aug 23, 2008 at 04:29 »

I don't announce anything unless the guy at the end of the table is clearly having trouble seeing the board (standing up, quinting, etc.)  Then I announce K-3-7 (in the order flopped, not in rank order), rainbow/two hearts, etc.

I've got glasses now, please get off my a$$........... Wink

Maybe he saw you quinting and couldn't help himself.
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« Reply #12 on: Oct 27, 2008 at 03:39 »

Slightly off-topic, but this thread has led me to another question that I've been looking for the answer for (I can't seem to find it in Roberts rules):

3 cards from the top of the deck and placed face down on the table, then all 3 are turned over in one motion? This is how I thought it should be, and how I've seen it done on tv (not much of a basis to go on I know).

Does everyone else do it like this, or do you turn one card at a time straight off the top of the deck?

Thanks
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« Reply #13 on: Oct 27, 2008 at 07:37 »

This is how I've seen it done at the Casino:

Two cards from the top of the deck are placed face down on the table.
The third card is slid underneath the two face down cards and used to flip all three cards over in one single motion.

This is how I do it myself:

I place the three cards face down on the table, pick them up, turn them over and spread them out.
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« Reply #14 on: Oct 27, 2008 at 08:00 »

This is how I've seen it done at the Casino:

Two cards from the top of the deck are placed face down on the table.
The third card is slid underneath the two face down cards and used to flip all three cards over in one single motion.

This is how I do it myself:

I place the three cards face down on the table, pick them up, turn them over and spread them out.

I also did it like that, but the group I play with complained. They like the suspense as the cards are turned over one at a time. I don't insist on the casino method as this method gives away tells and makes it easier to read players.
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« Reply #15 on: Oct 27, 2008 at 09:50 »

This is how I've seen it done at the Casino:

Two cards from the top of the deck are placed face down on the table.
The third card is slid underneath the two face down cards and used to flip all three cards over in one single motion.

This is how I do it myself:

I place the three cards face down on the table, pick them up, turn them over and spread them out.

either way as described above is correct. not one at a time.

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« Reply #16 on: Oct 27, 2008 at 09:59 »

That's what I thought. I do it exactly the same as William has described when I deal (I do most of the dealing in our home games), but usually when one of the other guy's does it, they do it one at a time.

It's not too big a deal (no pun), but good point from Spartacus it sure does help with a few tells!  Grin
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« Reply #17 on: Oct 27, 2008 at 14:12 »

That's what I thought. I do it exactly the same as William has described when I deal (I do most of the dealing in our home games), but usually when one of the other guy's does it, they do it one at a time.

It's not too big a deal (no pun), but good point from Spartacus it sure does help with a few tells!  Grin

It isn't a big deal...except when the dealer screws up the Flop. The procedure of tucking the burn card under the pot and dealing the Flop cards face down first helps to minimize dealer errors.
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« Reply #18 on: Oct 27, 2008 at 15:23 »

Turning up one card at a time increases the possibility to see tells on the cards.
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« Reply #19 on: Oct 27, 2008 at 16:15 »

At WSOP Europe, a lot of the dealers turn the cards up one by one but at other events, the dealers usually do it all at once.

I'm used to the all at once way so that's how it should be Cheesy
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« Reply #20 on: Oct 27, 2008 at 17:13 »

I need to practice the all-at-once swooping motion.  I tend to turn over one card at a time and then, with a flourish of my hand like Vanna White, I'll sweep over them to 'present the cards.'   I gotta quit drinking at home games.
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« Reply #21 on: Dec 25, 2008 at 11:31 »

In European casinos, it can be quite common to announce the cards.
This is due to the fact that in some European casinos the flop is dealt one card at a time. So, the dealer deals the first card of the board and announces the rank (and sometimes the suit, too), then the second card is dealt and announced, and so on.

Personally, I don't like it, because it makes the game a bit noisy, and I prefer it to be as quiet as possible (that's why I don't like the "announce-raise-rule" in tournaments either).

However, if there was a player who had limited visual abilities, I would want the cards to be announced, of course.
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