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: Propper dealing procedures  ( 5253 )
cobi
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« : Aug 08, 2008 at 16:14 »

Running a charity tournament soon and I want to hold a little dealer training (using my home game guys to deal).  Want to break some bad habits I've seen (mixing the burn and discards, not gathering the pot, dealing the flop one card at a time, etc).  Also want to incorporate cut cards and dealer buttons which don't get used at our home game. etc....

Any good links, also want to improve my own?
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« #1 : Aug 08, 2008 at 16:41 »

someone here bought a book called the dealers handbook or something, i can't quite remember the exact title. they said it helped. if possible, visit a poker room and watch the dealer for an hour or so, to get used to their procedures, and if you can ask a dealer at a dead table questions if you have any. or ask me.  8)
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« #2 : Aug 08, 2008 at 16:55 »

Yeah, I try to watch dealers when I play live (only a few times a year though).  Mainly just want to make sure nobody is doing dumb stuff like pre-boarding, etc....

I notice that almost nobody at our home game keeps the burn cards separate. Just want to have a little 30 minute training session before the tournament.

SOmething like:

1) Don't "pre-board"  (although I've only seen one guy do this, and he won't be asked)
2) Keep the burn cards separate
3) Gather in the discards so people aren't re-grabbing cards they've mucked
4) Gather the pot
5) When to push the pot
6) When to move the button
7) proper shuffling/dealing/cutting
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« #3 : Aug 08, 2008 at 19:13 »

Yeah, I try to watch dealers when I play live (only a few times a year though).  Mainly just want to make sure nobody is doing dumb stuff like pre-boarding, etc....

I notice that almost nobody at our home game keeps the burn cards separate. Just want to have a little 30 minute training session before the tournament.

SOmething like:

1) Don't "pre-board"  (although I've only seen one guy do this, and he won't be asked)
2) Keep the burn cards separate
3) Gather in the discards so people aren't re-grabbing cards they've mucked
4) Gather the pot
5) When to push the pot
6) When to move the button
7) proper shuffling/dealing/cutting

Are you having dedicated dealers? If it is a rotating deal then I wouldn't even bother. If you only have 30 minutes to prep your dealers then I think I would start with doing a proper face down shuffle including use of a cut card. I think that is the biggest bang for the buck to protect the integrity of the game so that people can't cheat by tracking cards by looking at the bottom of the deck. The other things you mention are good also. Still, even with dedicated dealers, 30 minutes is not enough time to fully get dealers up to speed. A lot of the reason is that they will need to break bad habits. I would get all of your dealers together and play an evening of poker with everyone making sure that everyone else is following procedures. A few hours of constant supervision and correction will help get all of your dealers up to speed and on the same page.

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« #4 : Aug 09, 2008 at 05:30 »

I'm not 100% sure, but i believe at my local casino, the dealers do mix the burns and discards (muck) and slide them under collected chips(pot).   I may have just been slacking though.  Feel free to rip me a new one, but what would be the big deal about that?  Dead cards are dead cards, are they not?
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« #5 : Aug 09, 2008 at 06:22 »

on the turn, ask the dealer if they burned a card before they dealt the turn. when they say yes, tell them to prove it. how can you when your muck is mixed with your burn cards? did you burn enough, or too many or not enough? who really knows? where's the proof. keep those burns under the pot until you're ready to push it.

keep the muck under your right hand when at rest. assuming you're holding the deck with your left... nobody can grab mucked cards, and your burns are under the pot on your left where they should be. they are far apart from each other and that's a good thing.

we have a saying: push the pot, push the button. many times players will try to beat you to moving the button - no big deal, so long as they announce it so you know it's already moved.

when to push the pot? after the winning hand(s) is/are tabled, and all other hands are mucked. i'm a stickler....some players will say, "nice hand" "you win" "you got me" but i don't push the pot to the winner until that other hand is in the muck.

and if you're using a dedicated dealer, don't let players make change from other players' bets. just way too confusing. either they put in exact change, or you make change for them before collecting their bet to put in the pot. if they call with an oversized chip, make sure the dealer is announcing it's a call so nobody gets confused and thinks it's a raise.

and anyone who doesn't use a cut card in their poker game is a fool.

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« #6 : Aug 09, 2008 at 17:52 »

Cutcards are the smallest of investments, and they're easy to use.

Nice cutcards are made by Copag, WPT, WSOP, and EPT if you like.

I got one kind of unicolor cutcard which was thick, unflexible, and semitransparent. I got it for free, so I had no trouble throwing them in the trash. Those were horrible.

The other cutcards (and I got both the Copag and WPT cutcards) are a little stiffer than KEM playing cards, which makes them easy to identify when you've forgotten to put the cutcard aside before starting the shuffle.

I'll play you in any game you name for any amount you can count.
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« #7 : Aug 10, 2008 at 00:09 »

Highly recommended:

"The Professional Dealer's Handbook" Malmuth, Paymer, Harris
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« #8 : Aug 10, 2008 at 16:06 »

For cut cards I run sheets of thick paper through my laminator and then use a paper (roll) cutter and a corner cutter to cut the to the size of the decks in use. Corners won't match the radius of the deck exactly, but that's no big deal.

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