NL Tourney all in question

[selkane]

I'm sure this type of question has been brought up here before, but I couldn't find the specific answer I was looking for in searching, so I'll ask it again.

NL T1000 tournament, blinds are at 200/400.

Four players left

Player 1 (UTG) raises to 1000
Player 2 (dealer) goes all in, making the total 1100
Player 3 (small blind) folds
Player 4 (big blind) calls
Player 1 re-raises to 2500 - this is where my question is. Can he do this? Since he was the last one to raise before the all in by player 2, and nobody re-raised before action got back to him, isn't he obligated to only call the raise by player 2 at that point? Or am I way off here?

I spoke up for a second on this, thinking I would get the backing of a few other onlookers, but they all insisted he could re-raise. It didn't seem right to me, but I let it go, assuming that I must have been mistaken.

Thanks for the help guys! Love this site!

[72]

no, he's not facing a raise. his only options are call or fold. he's the one who raised it, making it 600 more than the BB. he's facing an extra 100 from an all-in, not a raise.

had it been all-in of 1600+, then he would be able to raise.

[R-Ho]

Player 2's  wager is not enough to qualify as a raise, so player 1 may only call or fold.

[selkane]

Thanks guys. Made me feel like I didn't know the rules for a while there. So, let me ask you this then. If Player 2 had gone all in, making the total 1600 (rather than 1100), Player 4 calls, could Player 1 then reraise? That amount would be considered a full raise, of course, but it is also an all in. Does that change how Player 1 can act when action is back on him after Player 4 just calls?

[72]

yes, if it was 1600 he could raise, regardless what player 4 did, so long as there were other players in the hand who weren't all-in.

[selkane]

Thanks 72. Just read that in your first reply.  Guess I need to look closer.

[72]

there's a link here somewhere to RROP - Robert's Rules of Poker. i strongly suggest you print it up and have it handy for your games for a quick reference.

[Martini]

there's a link here somewhere to RROP - Robert's Rules of Poker. i strongly suggest you print it up and have it handy for your games for a quick reference.

http://www.homepokertourney.com/roberts-rules-of-poker.htm#BETTING_AND_RAISING