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Author Topic: Not a big win, but a fun one.  (Read 636 times)
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« on: Jun 16, 2011 at 15:50 »

Playing 4-8 HORSE in The Venetian, 8 players.

We were on Razz, with me in the No. 5 seat with card back card back ace of hearts showing.
I'd been playing pretty tight and won most hands I played.

Everyone posts the $1 ante.

Seat No. 2 brings in for $2 with card back card back queen of clubs.
Seat No. 3 folds card back card back 3 of hearts
Seat No. 4 calls with card back card back 2 of spades.

I complete to $4 and everybody folds.

I show ace of clubs ace of diamonds ace of hearts and take the $12 pot.

Even the dealer went: "Erm, you know this is... never mind."

It was a good day. I played for 18 hours straight and left with a profit of $200 which I then blew on Blackjack Switch.
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« Reply #1 on: Jun 16, 2011 at 17:04 »

Pretty sweet hand to take down...I'd love to know what the deuce thought was good enough to come in for a half and not call the full.  It's not like your ace wasn't looking him in the eye.


On a related note, last trip to Tunica, I was playing 4/8 Omaha8.  UTG folded but asked for his cards to be kept out of the muck.  At the end of the hand, the table saw he had all 4 aces in his hand.
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« Reply #2 on: Jun 18, 2011 at 19:55 »

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On a related note, last trip to Tunica, I was playing 4/8 Omaha8.  UTG folded but asked for his cards to be kept out of the muck.  At the end of the hand, the table saw he had all 4 aces in his hand.

I tell people to just keep their mouths shut in our game. As subtle as it may be, comments like that can relay information about what card are out there. It's not like no one would believe you if you told them after the hand anyway. Though it is obviously a rare case, Quads do happen and when it does happen it would not be the first time nor will it be the last.
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« Reply #3 on: Jun 18, 2011 at 21:00 »

It's better than what happened the day before when someone got rolled up kings in Razz and flipped them over pre-flop. Still, rolled up aces, or quads in O8 shown after action is complete won't change the action much, if anything.

I probably would've played the aces in O8 until a lower straight (i.e. not to the ace) was possible, or the board paired. On a possible flush board I would've bet every street.
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« Reply #4 on: Jun 18, 2011 at 21:25 »



I probably would've played the aces in O8 until a lower straight (i.e. not to the ace) was possible, or the board paired. On a possible flush board I would've bet every street.

I would recommend you not do that.
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« Reply #5 on: Jun 18, 2011 at 21:33 »

It's better than what happened the day before when someone got rolled up kings in Razz and flipped them over pre-flop. Still, rolled up aces, or quads in O8 shown after action is complete won't change the action much, if anything.

I probably would've played the aces in O8 until a lower straight (i.e. not to the ace) was possible, or the board paired. On a possible flush board I would've bet every street.

I don't care what is said *after* the hand is done. But when someone says they want to have their hand saved while the hand is still going on then that's just like someone audibly sighing when the flop comes out 22x or something. It's something that can affect the play of the hand so if you feel that anyone really cards that you got dealt a rare hand then just tell them afterward.

Something like that happened in my game. It was in Omaha and the player shows his hand to another player who already folded and says something like "that guy would never play this" and folds his hand. I pull the cards to the side and after the hand say that he had Nines in his hand since "that guy" is in reference to someone that those two met in an Omaha tourney at Binion's who would never play a hand that had even one Nine in it. Sure enough the hand had three Nines in it. As it turned out a Nine hit on the Flop. Now it happened to be the middle rank so it wouldn't change much. But if the Nine were the top rank then someone with middle Set who heard that comment would know whether he had the current Nuts or not (assuming no Straights or Flushes possible of course).

Btw, I think you're crazy to try to pull off a massive Float in O/8 with AAAA. That's crazy. Unless all of your players are advanced enough and disciplined enough to lay down second Nuts, you're going to lose a ton of money trying to buffalo people with a terrible O/8 hand.
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« Reply #6 on: Jun 19, 2011 at 17:09 »

I think you would get away with it in most cases, but you have to bet every street to convincingly represent the nut flush (draw) and to give them every chance to fold. Just floating would be a foolish thing to do, by the time you'd be making your move the pot odds would demand calling any bet.

Even when there is a low possible and someone would risk calling with the third nut low, your Aces would still likely make the best high hand for a split, and your image as a maniac would be complete Smiley.
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« Reply #7 on: Jun 19, 2011 at 17:39 »

I think you would get away with it in most cases, but you have to bet every street to convincingly represent the nut flush (draw) and to give them every chance to fold. Just floating would be a foolish thing to do, by the time you'd be making your move the pot odds would demand calling any bet.

Even when there is a low possible and someone would risk calling with the third nut low, your Aces would still likely make the best high hand for a split, and your image as a maniac would be complete Smiley.

With all due respect, being willing to dump off stacks of chips for novelty is not my cup of tea. There are tons of O/8 hands (without a low obviously) that do not include an Ace. Unless there is a low possible on the Flop you may well be repping a low draw when someone has top Set and the current Nuts. All that so at the end of the hand you get to say "Look Quad Aces!"? OK, have fun with that.
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« Reply #8 on: Jun 21, 2011 at 17:41 »

I think you would get away with it in most cases, but you have to bet every street to convincingly represent the nut flush (draw) and to give them every chance to fold. Just floating would be a foolish thing to do, by the time you'd be making your move the pot odds would demand calling any bet.

Even when there is a low possible and someone would risk calling with the third nut low, your Aces would still likely make the best high hand for a split, and your image as a maniac would be complete Smiley.

Unless you are playing with some amazing 3rd and 4th level thinking players, there is no way this is a winning play. Casino omaha8 probably averages 60% or higher of hands reaching showdown. Some guy with the 2nd or 3rd nuts either way is calling you. For sure.
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« Reply #9 on: Aug 04, 2011 at 17:43 »

In response to the OP, I once took down a pot in 15/30 Razz when I was rolled up in 4s. We had a prop bet at the time where if you were rolled up, you got $25 from each player, and if you won the pot, you got $50 from each player.
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« Reply #10 on: Aug 05, 2011 at 09:04 »

What am I missing?

I don't play anything four suited (espcially not quads) on a flush draw in O8...
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