Yet another reason to never play online poker.

[troysteelerfan]

Playing in a short handed SNG at p* earlier - first hand I get dealt AA - I raise to 3X the BB - SB shoves.....turns over KQ - he makes a st8 and wins.....before I leave the table I typed "should have known - good luck all - even the guy that just sucked out - before I leave the table he replies "F*c* ur dead mother"  - even though I complained slightly a thought that was inappropriate so I said so....he then replies "I hope ur kids die of cancer" - I obviously called a moderator to the table but left before I saw if anything was resolved....now I ask you....what in God's name makes people act like that over a $3.40 SNG??

PS - I can handle the bad beat - I played it right and what happens happens but the comments did send me over the edge

[Martini]

Yet another reason to just turn off viewing other player's comments.

Good of you to have notified the site. That behavior is just inexcusable. If anything I would expect that from the guy with AA who got sucked out on so it is perplexing as well. Obviously that guy has an issue and it's his problem, not yours but yeah, sucks to have to put up with that under any circumstances.

[troysteelerfan]

Yet another reason to just turn off viewing other player's comments.

Probably what I will do - but I sometimes like to "listen" to what others are saying for some info or just for giggles but felt this crossed the line.

[stooks99]

Yet another reason to just turn off viewing other player's comments.

Good of you to have notified the site. That behavior is just inexcusable. If anything I would expect that from the guy with AA who got sucked out on so it is perplexing as well. Obviously that guy has an issue and it's his problem, not yours but yeah, sucks to have to put up with that under any circumstances.

Turning off your chat is very, very -EV.

[Martini]

Yet another reason to just turn off viewing other player's comments.

Good of you to have notified the site. That behavior is just inexcusable. If anything I would expect that from the guy with AA who got sucked out on so it is perplexing as well. Obviously that guy has an issue and it's his problem, not yours but yeah, sucks to have to put up with that under any circumstances.

Turning off your chat is very, very -EV.

Was not aware of that. How so? Not that it matters if you're running so many tables that you can't read the comments anyway.

[holdemholmes]

Yet another reason to just turn off viewing other player's comments.

Good of you to have notified the site. That behavior is just inexcusable. If anything I would expect that from the guy with AA who got sucked out on so it is perplexing as well. Obviously that guy has an issue and it's his problem, not yours but yeah, sucks to have to put up with that under any circumstances.

Turning off your chat is very, very -EV.

Was not aware of that. How so? Not that it matters if you're running so many tables that you can't read the comments anyway.

I feel like it can give you a better idea of someone is on tilt, and some of the really bad players will openly discuss their strategy and tell you (with a lot of the time a whole lot of honesty) what they had in a previous hand.

[stooks99]

Yet another reason to just turn off viewing other player's comments.

Good of you to have notified the site. That behavior is just inexcusable. If anything I would expect that from the guy with AA who got sucked out on so it is perplexing as well. Obviously that guy has an issue and it's his problem, not yours but yeah, sucks to have to put up with that under any circumstances.

Turning off your chat is very, very -EV.

Was not aware of that. How so? Not that it matters if you're running so many tables that you can't read the comments anyway.

Well, if you're 10 tabling, it might not matter, but at the same time, it won't hurt to have it on.  Conceivably, it could possibly cost you money to have it off.

[Detroitdad]

I usually only play the Turbos if I"m playing a Tourney. I usually keep it under the tab so I know how much time is left before the next blind level.

[Junior]

Yet another reason to just turn off viewing other player's comments.

Probably what I will do - but I sometimes like to "listen" to what others are saying for some info or just for giggles but felt this crossed the line.

This is exactly the reason I leave player messages on!  These are the type of players that you need to report right away when they say crap like that.  I also ask the site to report back to me on what action was taken on said player.  Another thing is you can take a quick snap shot of the screen and save it so you have proof of what was said in case they claim they can't find it in their server files!  Trust me, I've complained about many idiots online before and I'm sure there will be plenty more.  Just call someone a donkey for calling your all in with their garbage and you find enough people with a loose tongue! 

That player you had should be banned from their site and not allowed to come back.  Comments like that are uncalled for and quite frankly disgusting.  I've recently just finished cancer treatment and hearing someone say something like that would heat me pretty damn good too.  Let us know whether you hear what the outcome was.

[luckystraights]

people are scum, and people talk sh%t, why care... you could have gotten stabbed outside a casino, words are just words

[luckystraights]

Yet another reason to just turn off viewing other player's comments.

Probably what I will do - but I sometimes like to "listen" to what others are saying for some info or just for giggles but felt this crossed the line.

This is exactly the reason I leave player messages on!  These are the type of players that you need to report right away when they say crap like that.  I also ask the site to report back to me on what action was taken on said player.  Another thing is you can take a quick snap shot of the screen and save it so you have proof of what was said in case they claim they can't find it in their server files!  Trust me, I've complained about many idiots online before and I'm sure there will be plenty more.  Just call someone a donkey for calling your all in with their garbage and you find enough people with a loose tongue! 

That player you had should be banned from their site and not allowed to come back.  Comments like that are uncalled for and quite frankly disgusting.  I've recently just finished cancer treatment and hearing someone say something like that would heat me pretty damn good too.  Let us know whether you hear what the outcome was.

DIASAGREEE HUGE WITH THIS

Someone can wish me dead, talk about my mom or how fat my butt is all day long, if it bothers me, I'm the fool for caring what some random jerk has to say.

The guy's with the big mouth or talk random crap trying to offend people like thsi however are IME some of the biggest donks and droolers in the wolrd of gambling, they quit and leave soon enough as it is, I definitly do not want them being banned just cause someone takes offense about some of his comments, grow up IMO.

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[Junior]

DIASAGREEE HUGE WITH THIS

Someone can wish me dead, talk about my mom or how fat my butt is all day long, if it bothers me, I'm the fool for caring what some random jerk has to say.

The guy's with the big mouth or talk random crap trying to offend people like thsi however are IME some of the biggest donks and droolers in the wolrd of gambling, they quit and leave soon enough as it is, I definitly do not want them being banned just cause someone takes offense about some of his comments, grow up IMO.

well to each his own I guess. 

[NotFadeAway]

I don't see how slowrollers are worse than guys that berate and insult.  I mean, slowrolls are bad, but not as bad as harassing behavior imo.  A slowroll is over quickly and you move on to the next hand, but a guy that's berating and insulting opponents usually seems to just goes on and on, often to the point of making the worst players (since they're usually the ones that are being insulted) leave the table.

[TwoToGo-Grave]

DIASAGREEE HUGE WITH THIS

Someone can wish me dead, talk about my mom or how fat my butt is all day long, if it bothers me, I'm the fool for caring what some random jerk has to say.

The guy's with the big mouth or talk random crap trying to offend people like thsi however are IME some of the biggest donks and droolers in the wolrd of gambling, they quit and leave soon enough as it is, I definitly do not want them being banned just cause someone takes offense about some of his comments, grow up IMO.

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People berating the bad players (or worse yet, 'lol'ing at them when they lose with bad plays), seem to drive the bad players away.  Not all of them, obviously, but for bad players who are playing for fun (not for profit, clearly), a bad environment full of arguing and berating is NOT going to be fun, so they're much more likely to leave, and they're the ones who need to stay.

[luckystraights]

I don't see how slowrollers are worse than guys that berate and insult.  I mean, slowrolls are bad, but not as bad as harassing behavior imo.  A slowroll is over quickly and you move on to the next hand, but a guy that's berating and insulting opponents usually seems to just goes on and on, often to the point of making the worst players (since they're usually the ones that are being insulted) leave the table.

slowrollers slow down the game by definition, they'll wait for you to shove then count down 20 seconds and call before they time out. It delays the table and can be a distraction and can cause time issues on your other tables.

Say what you want, at least online lol, I'll judge you by your actions not what you typing in a chat box that I may or may not even see.

DIASAGREEE HUGE WITH THIS

Someone can wish me dead, talk about my mom or how fat my butt is all day long, if it bothers me, I'm the fool for caring what some random jerk has to say.

The guy's with the big mouth or talk random crap trying to offend people like thsi however are IME some of the biggest donks and droolers in the wolrd of gambling, they quit and leave soon enough as it is, I definitly do not want them being banned just cause someone takes offense about some of his comments, grow up IMO.

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People berating the bad players (or worse yet, 'lol'ing at them when they lose with bad plays), seem to drive the bad players away.  Not all of them, obviously, but for bad players who are playing for fun (not for profit, clearly), a bad environment full of arguing and berating is NOT going to be fun, so they're much more likely to leave, and they're the ones who need to stay.

This would be an issue if it was a reg, but the big mouth is likley more of a fish then the loosy see flops and don't build pots type of fish he may have scared away. I'll take an aggro donk on tilt shoving K high over my cb as opposed to a 14/2 LP any day of the week.

I just think people have there heads up there arse when it comes to being insulted, people should just grow up and ignore it imo.

oh and why is it okay to call someone a, [ donkey, fish, or lol, hahah, :-)] at them, but its totally inappropriate and offensive to [go die, FU, c*nt] someone, boggles my mind.

[troysteelerfan]

Lucky - just curious as to how you can - at least it seems you can - condone that type of behavior and those type of comments? Whether it bothers you personally or not is not the issue - the issue is what should be expected and acceptable behavior at tables - I expect a certain amount rude behavior and comments both live and online but some behavior and comments crosses the line....which I would like to think we can all agree that this did.  I am not looking for sympathy from anyone - and with you lucky that apparently is a good thing - but only trying to share an experience that crossed the line. 

[stooks99]

It's simple poker etiquette/tradition:  Losers get to say pretty much what they want, winners have to behave themselves.

[luckystraights]

Lucky - just curious as to how you can - at least it seems you can - condone that type of behavior and those type of comments? Whether it bothers you personally or not is not the issue - the issue is what should be expected and acceptable behavior at tables - I expect a certain amount rude behavior and comments both live and online but some behavior and comments crosses the line....which I would like to think we can all agree that this did.  I am not looking for sympathy from anyone - and with you lucky that apparently is a good thing - but only trying to share an experience that crossed the line. 

I'm sorry you had a bad experience, and that guy clearly was an arse, but tbh online, I don't really care what people say (in terms of goading or insulting comments) its not something I give much thought, I definitly woudn't want people to be penalized for it, and think people should be free to say more or less w/e they want.

Difference between online and live is that with live, there is a car park outside and who know's what else waiting for you.

I don't think I'm wording it very well, but people talk crap all the time, just think nothing of it. I've said some insane crap on PTR myself.

[troysteelerfan]

Lucky - just curious as to how you can - at least it seems you can - condone that type of behavior and those type of comments? Whether it bothers you personally or not is not the issue - the issue is what should be expected and acceptable behavior at tables - I expect a certain amount rude behavior and comments both live and online but some behavior and comments crosses the line....which I would like to think we can all agree that this did.  I am not looking for sympathy from anyone - and with you lucky that apparently is a good thing - but only trying to share an experience that crossed the line. 

I'm sorry you had a bad experience, and that guy clearly was an arse, but tbh online, I don't really care what people say (in terms of goading or insulting comments) its not something I give much thought, I definitly woudn't want people to be penalized for it, and think people should be free to say more or less w/e they want.

Difference between online and live is that with live, there is a car park outside and who know's what else waiting for you.

I don't think I'm wording it very well, but people talk crap all the time, just think nothing of it. I've said some insane crap on PTR myself.

You're missing my point and I believe THE point - I usually don't care what they say and haven't given this much thought since - whether they ban this player or not or penalize him or not isn't the point - the point is some things said - whether online or live - cross the line from "trash talk", being criticized for bad play, being called a donk - or whatever - they cross the line into just plain rude.  I am happy for you that you can choose to ignore the behavior of others - I usually do - but online or live there are certain behaviors that should be expected from players and rules -whether written or unwritten - that should be followed.....which is one of the problems with online play, and one of the points I was trying to make - that people feel free to say / type  whatever they want, and feel that its okay....why is okay to be rude, disrespectful, and a complete jerk online? I believe that is a problem.  As for whether I should or shouldn't care - which I didn't lose any sleep over this at all - but the point is, no one - me or anyone else - should have to put up with kind of inexcusable behavior and language.  Just because its online is irrelevant - rude is rude.

[austin5string]

Lucky - just curious as to how you can - at least it seems you can - condone that type of behavior and those type of comments? Whether it bothers you personally or not is not the issue - the issue is what should be expected and acceptable behavior at tables - I expect a certain amount rude behavior and comments both live and online but some behavior and comments crosses the line....which I would like to think we can all agree that this did.  I am not looking for sympathy from anyone - and with you lucky that apparently is a good thing - but only trying to share an experience that crossed the line. 

I'm sorry you had a bad experience, and that guy clearly was an arse, but tbh online, I don't really care what people say (in terms of goading or insulting comments) its not something I give much thought, I definitly woudn't want people to be penalized for it, and think people should be free to say more or less w/e they want.

Difference between online and live is that with live, there is a car park outside and who know's what else waiting for you.

I don't think I'm wording it very well, but people talk crap all the time, just think nothing of it. I've said some insane crap on PTR myself.

You're missing my point and I believe THE point - I usually don't care what they say and haven't given this much thought since - whether they ban this player or not or penalize him or not isn't the point - the point is some things said - whether online or live - cross the line from "trash talk", being criticized for bad play, being called a donk - or whatever - they cross the line into just plain rude.  I am happy for you that you can choose to ignore the behavior of others - I usually do - but online or live there are certain behaviors that should be expected from players and rules -whether written or unwritten - that should be followed.....which is one of the problems with online play, and one of the points I was trying to make - that people feel free to say / type  whatever they want, and feel that its okay....why is okay to be rude, disrespectful, and a complete jerk online? I believe that is a problem.  As for whether I should or shouldn't care - which I didn't lose any sleep over this at all - but the point is, no one - me or anyone else - should have to put up with kind of inexcusable behavior and language.  Just because its online is irrelevant - rude is rude.

I thought that, too, until I read the last line - "I've said some insane crap on PTR myself."

So it's not so much that the point is being missed, it's more a defensive post because Lucky does the same thing..

[luckystraights]

Lucky - just curious as to how you can - at least it seems you can - condone that type of behavior and those type of comments? Whether it bothers you personally or not is not the issue - the issue is what should be expected and acceptable behavior at tables - I expect a certain amount rude behavior and comments both live and online but some behavior and comments crosses the line....which I would like to think we can all agree that this did.  I am not looking for sympathy from anyone - and with you lucky that apparently is a good thing - but only trying to share an experience that crossed the line. 

I'm sorry you had a bad experience, and that guy clearly was an arse, but tbh online, I don't really care what people say (in terms of goading or insulting comments) its not something I give much thought, I definitly woudn't want people to be penalized for it, and think people should be free to say more or less w/e they want.

Difference between online and live is that with live, there is a car park outside and who know's what else waiting for you.

I don't think I'm wording it very well, but people talk crap all the time, just think nothing of it. I've said some insane crap on PTR myself.

You're missing my point and I believe THE point - I usually don't care what they say and haven't given this much thought since - whether they ban this player or not or penalize him or not isn't the point - the point is some things said - whether online or live - cross the line from "trash talk", being criticized for bad play, being called a donk - or whatever - they cross the line into just plain rude.  I am happy for you that you can choose to ignore the behavior of others - I usually do - but online or live there are certain behaviors that should be expected from players and rules -whether written or unwritten - that should be followed.....which is one of the problems with online play, and one of the points I was trying to make - that people feel free to say / type  whatever they want, and feel that its okay....why is okay to be rude, disrespectful, and a complete jerk online? I believe that is a problem.  As for whether I should or shouldn't care - which I didn't lose any sleep over this at all - but the point is, no one - me or anyone else - should have to put up with kind of inexcusable behavior and language.  Just because its online is irrelevant - rude is rude.

freespeech, people are allowed to be rude imo, live or online people should be able to talk to you like utter sh%t if they please, wether they do is there choice and wether you take offense is up to you, and even if you do... so what, people should be allowed to say anything in this regard imo.

[luckystraights]

Lucky - just curious as to how you can - at least it seems you can - condone that type of behavior and those type of comments? Whether it bothers you personally or not is not the issue - the issue is what should be expected and acceptable behavior at tables - I expect a certain amount rude behavior and comments both live and online but some behavior and comments crosses the line....which I would like to think we can all agree that this did.  I am not looking for sympathy from anyone - and with you lucky that apparently is a good thing - but only trying to share an experience that crossed the line. 

I'm sorry you had a bad experience, and that guy clearly was an arse, but tbh online, I don't really care what people say (in terms of goading or insulting comments) its not something I give much thought, I definitly woudn't want people to be penalized for it, and think people should be free to say more or less w/e they want.

Difference between online and live is that with live, there is a car park outside and who know's what else waiting for you.

I don't think I'm wording it very well, but people talk crap all the time, just think nothing of it. I've said some insane crap on PTR myself.

You're missing my point and I believe THE point - I usually don't care what they say and haven't given this much thought since - whether they ban this player or not or penalize him or not isn't the point - the point is some things said - whether online or live - cross the line from "trash talk", being criticized for bad play, being called a donk - or whatever - they cross the line into just plain rude.  I am happy for you that you can choose to ignore the behavior of others - I usually do - but online or live there are certain behaviors that should be expected from players and rules -whether written or unwritten - that should be followed.....which is one of the problems with online play, and one of the points I was trying to make - that people feel free to say / type  whatever they want, and feel that its okay....why is okay to be rude, disrespectful, and a complete jerk online? I believe that is a problem.  As for whether I should or shouldn't care - which I didn't lose any sleep over this at all - but the point is, no one - me or anyone else - should have to put up with kind of inexcusable behavior and language.  Just because its online is irrelevant - rude is rude.

I thought that, too, until I read the last line - "I've said some insane crap on PTR myself."

So it's not so much that the point is being missed, it's more a defensive post because Lucky does the same thing..

what you getting at?

I ain't being deffensive, just hate needless draconian bs. I'm not going to disagree with some behaviour and say it should be penalized when I don't belief that to be true.

[72]

freespeech, people are allowed to be rude imo, live or online people should be able to talk to you like utter sh%t if they please, wether they do is there choice and wether you take offense is up to you, and even if you do... so what, people should be allowed to say anything in this regard imo.

at the casinos here, rude/offensive behaviour or verbal abuse of players or staff will get you the bum's rush out the door. 

[holdemholmes]

freespeech, people are allowed to be rude imo, live or online people should be able to talk to you like utter sh%t if they please, wether they do is there choice and wether you take offense is up to you, and even if you do... so what, people should be allowed to say anything in this regard imo.

at the casinos here, rude/offensive behaviour or verbal abuse of players or staff will get you the bum's rush out the door. 

Not here....they let people be abusive to each other/staff until it becomes physical....

[TwoToGo-Grave]

This would be an issue if it was a reg, but the big mouth is likley more of a fish then the loosy see flops and don't build pots type of fish he may have scared away. I'll take an aggro donk on tilt shoving K high over my cb as opposed to a 14/2 LP any day of the week.

I just think people have there heads up there arse when it comes to being insulted, people should just grow up and ignore it imo.

oh and why is it okay to call someone a, [ donkey, fish, or lol, hahah, :-)] at them, but its totally inappropriate and offensive to [go die, FU, c*nt] someone, boggles my mind.

I understand what you're saying, but I respectfully disagree.  I think that the boorish comments create a bad environment that simply drive away more fish than they bring to the game.  I certainly agree that the vast majority of berating types are the aggro-donks, A)they won't be driven away from the games as easily as the types who are being berating (I'm speculating on that, obviously), and B)the 14/2 types (or better yet, 22/2 types) that are being berated are guaranteed low-variance profit, so I'd prefer them being at the table anyway.

[NotFadeAway]

freespeech, people are allowed to be rude imo, live or online people should be able to talk to you like utter sh%t if they please, wether they do is there choice and wether you take offense is up to you, and even if you do... so what, people should be allowed to say anything in this regard imo.

Free speech doesn't exist when it comes to private companies.  If a online site wants to ban the word 'flop' they can, and nothing can stop them.

Actually I kind of want to see a site do that, if for no other reason than to see someone play 2-3, hit two pair and be like, "I ****ed a 2 and a 3"...

[TwoToGo-Grave]

freespeech, people are allowed to be rude imo, live or online people should be able to talk to you like utter sh%t if they please, wether they do is there choice and wether you take offense is up to you, and even if you do... so what, people should be allowed to say anything in this regard imo.

Free speech doesn't exist when it comes to private companies.  If a online site wants to ban the word 'flop' they can, and nothing can stop them.

Actually I kind of want to see a site do that, if for no other reason than to see someone play 2-3, hit two pair and be like, "I ****ed a 2 and a 3"...

How about 'I ****ed a king and a jack'?

[KPrather]

freespeech, people are allowed to be rude imo, live or online people should be able to talk to you like utter sh%t if they please, wether they do is there choice and wether you take offense is up to you, and even if you do... so what, people should be allowed to say anything in this regard imo.

Free speech doesn't exist when it comes to private companies.  If a online site wants to ban the word 'flop' they can, and nothing can stop them.

Actually I kind of want to see a site do that, if for no other reason than to see someone play 2-3, hit two pair and be like, "I ****ed a 2 and a 3"...

How about 'I ****ed a king and a jack'?

Approves.

[troysteelerfan]

I am not arguing that this is a free speech issue - which by the way free speech has its limits - case in point, be rude to a cop next time you're pulled over and see what that gets you - be rude and vulgar to a judge and see what happens - I am quite confident that you would have consequences and not be able to claim "Free speech" - and you're right, people do have the right to say what they want to say - as long as they are willing to accept consequences for saying it - people can choose to say what they want, act like idiots and be rude - but should they? Its more than just an issue of people being allowed to say what they want - it's about being respectful of others, treating others with the common decency that should be afforded to us all....lucky, your comments and stance on this issue are clear that there is no reasoning with you on this point, you can continue to act however you choose to act online or in person - I don't care, but I am done reading your posts on this issue - I would think that its obvious from the other posts that your views on this are in the minority.  Good luck at the tables - I hope the other players treat you with courtesy and respect - no matter how you treat them.

[luckystraights]

I am not arguing that this is a free speech issue - which by the way free speech has its limits - case in point, be rude to a cop next time you're pulled over and see what that gets you - be rude and vulgar to a judge and see what happens

obviously, tho I disagree with selective enforcement on this issue.

Its pretty annoying how I always seem to come accross as the bad guy on here... I'm just being honnest, you don't know me, no one does... I am one of the most respectful people you could meet, I give respect by my actions and by my meaning, and to those I care about.

[Junior]

slowrollers slow down the game by definition, they'll wait for you to shove then count down 20 seconds and call before they time out. It delays the table and can be a distraction and can cause time issues on your other tables.

Say what you want, at least online lol, I'll judge you by your actions not what you typing in a chat box that I may or may not even see.

Rediculous....delays the game and causes a distraction?  slowrolling has nothing to do with pondering a call when someone has placed a bet.  I'm allotted 20 or 30 seconds online to decide if I have the best hand.  If that pisses you off then tough.  The sites allow timeto think and if I want to use that time the rest of the table can go to hell if they're upset about it.  Abusing this time every hand is a different story but I don't think i've ever seen someone abuse it like that.  

[Junior]

I am not arguing that this is a free speech issue - which by the way free speech has its limits - case in point, be rude to a cop next time you're pulled over and see what that gets you - be rude and vulgar to a judge and see what happens

 
obviously, tho I disagree with selective enforcement on this issue.

Its pretty annoying how I always seem to come accross as the bad guy on here... I'm just being honnest, you don't know me, no one does... I am one of the most respectful people you could meet, I give respect by my actions and by my meaning, and to those I care about.

I don't think anyone would question your integrity or character based on a few posts, we're all simply discussing an issue online about inappropriate comments made by players on poker sites that are public. 

[luckystraights]

slowrollers slow down the game by definition, they'll wait for you to shove then count down 20 seconds and call before they time out. It delays the table and can be a distraction and can cause time issues on your other tables.

Say what you want, at least online lol, I'll judge you by your actions not what you typing in a chat box that I may or may not even see.

Rediculous....delays the game and causes a distraction?  slowrolling has nothing to do with pondering a call when someone has placed a bet.  I'm allotted 20 or 30 seconds online to decide if I have the best hand.  If that pisses you off then tough.  The sites allow timeto think and if I want to use that time the rest of the table can go to hell if they're upset about it.  Abusing this time every hand is a different story but I don't think i've ever seen someone abuse it like that.  

you flop quoads check cause check-raising is fun, someone shoves u have AA on AA2 and you use your entire time bank to decided if your calling, that is a slow roll and shouldn't be tollerated imo.

I frown upon people time banking as if there folding but never are (i.e a 20bb stack with AKs BVB facing a 3b), but doing it with the nutz for asmusement is punishment worthy imo.

[holdemholmes]

slowrollers slow down the game by definition, they'll wait for you to shove then count down 20 seconds and call before they time out. It delays the table and can be a distraction and can cause time issues on your other tables.

Say what you want, at least online lol, I'll judge you by your actions not what you typing in a chat box that I may or may not even see.

Rediculous....delays the game and causes a distraction?  slowrolling has nothing to do with pondering a call when someone has placed a bet.  I'm allotted 20 or 30 seconds online to decide if I have the best hand.  If that pisses you off then tough.  The sites allow timeto think and if I want to use that time the rest of the table can go to hell if they're upset about it.  Abusing this time every hand is a different story but I don't think i've ever seen someone abuse it like that. 

He's not talking about using alloted time when you have a tough decision, he's talking about using all of the time for a slowroll....huge difference. And if you see nothing wrong with slowrolling someone, maybe you need a review of ethics and proper play.

[Junior]

He's not talking about using alloted time when you have a tough decision, he's talking about using all of the time for a slowroll....huge difference. And if you see nothing wrong with slowrolling someone, maybe you need a review of ethics and proper play.

well i dunno who you're plaing against online but I have YET to have ANYONE slow roll the nuts, especially if they have quads?!?!?!  Can't see that happening as often as you make it sound and if it does, well then you need to find a different online site with different players.   

Personally, I've never slowed rolled anyone and never would.  There's nothing wrong with my ethics or proper play and I don't recall ever saying that slow rolling someone was acceptable.  I've run my own league for years and am quite familiar with the ethics and etiquette of the game, but thanks for the vote of confidence coach!

[luckystraights]

slowrolling isn't very common, but definitly isn't rare.

Its more to do with the individual reg or fish, some will slow play others won't

I've played over 1 million hands so seen it enough times.

[Nerre]

DIASAGREEE HUGE WITH THIS

Why shouldn't they be reported and banned?

Not because you take offense, but because they (in 99% of the cases) violate the terms of the poker site.

[Junior]

DIASAGREEE HUGE WITH THIS

Why shouldn't they be reported and banned?

Not because you take offense, but because they (in 99% of the cases) violate the terms of the poker site.

Thank you, my point exactly. 

[luckystraights]

DIASAGREEE HUGE WITH THIS

Why shouldn't they be reported and banned?

Not because you take offense, but because they (in 99% of the cases) violate the terms of the poker site.

seriously, you people actually put "not being insulted" over having an idiot at your table.

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[NotFadeAway]

DIASAGREEE HUGE WITH THIS

Why shouldn't they be reported and banned?

Not because you take offense, but because they (in 99% of the cases) violate the terms of the poker site.

seriously, you people actually put "not being insulted" over having an idiot at your table.

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lol

Not everyone plays for the same reasons though.  Plenty of people want to play for fun, and being berated or taunted the whole time you're playing is not fun.
Also, I don't follow the slowrolling=bad but berating and taunting=okay.  If one's okay, the other should be imo.  Personally, I don't like either one at all, and not because of people insulting me, but because of making the atmosphere of the game bad and making recreational players more inclined to not come back.

[luckystraights]

DIASAGREEE HUGE WITH THIS

Why shouldn't they be reported and banned?

Not because you take offense, but because they (in 99% of the cases) violate the terms of the poker site.

seriously, you people actually put "not being insulted" over having an idiot at your table.

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lol

Not everyone plays for the same reasons though.  Plenty of people want to play for fun, and being berated or taunted the whole time you're playing is not fun.
Also, I don't follow the slowrolling=bad but berating and taunting=okay. 

Why?

table chat can be hidden, ignored or not seen, if someone is slow rolling you, you have no choice but to wait those 20 secondst to find out your beat.

Sure in an ideal world I wouldn't care about results and would just get on with it, but everyone's human.

I'm just shocked people care so much about what random strangers, most likley from differn't states or even differn't countries have to say towards them. Its a competative enviroment thats often charged with emotion, things can get heated.

You can turn the other cheeck and ignore it, or you can dish it back on them, reporting someone in this enviroment or lol trying to ban them is pathetic imo and its not even close.

I mean if your walking down the street and someone calls you a "insert offensive term", you probably ignore it or go hit w/e insulted you, I'd be supprised if 1 in 10 of you instead went to the police to complain that you got insulted.

[austin5string]

DIASAGREEE HUGE WITH THIS

Why shouldn't they be reported and banned?

Not because you take offense, but because they (in 99% of the cases) violate the terms of the poker site.

seriously, you people actually put "not being insulted" over having an idiot at your table.

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lol

Not everyone plays for the same reasons though.  Plenty of people want to play for fun, and being berated or taunted the whole time you're playing is not fun.
Also, I don't follow the slowrolling=bad but berating and taunting=okay. 

Why?

table chat can be hidden, ignored or not seen, if someone is slow rolling you, you have no choice but to wait those 20 secondst to find out your beat.

Sure in an ideal world I wouldn't care about results and would just get on with it, but everyone's human.

I'm just shocked people care so much about what random strangers, most likley from differn't states or even differn't countries have to say towards them. Its a competative enviroment thats often charged with emotion, things can get heated.

You can turn the other cheeck and ignore it, or you can dish it back on them, reporting someone in this enviroment or lol trying to ban them is pathetic imo and its not even close.

I mean if your walking down the street and someone calls you a "insert offensive term", you probably ignore it or go hit w/e insulted you, I'd be supprised if 1 in 10 of you instead went to the police to complain that you got insulted.

You just don't get it, do you? 

[troysteelerfan]

Some of us seem to be on the same page and this video seems about right.  For one poster we seem to be .....

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/7IU1bzZheWk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/7IU1bzZheWk</a>

[NotFadeAway]

I mean if your walking down the street and someone calls you a "insert offensive term", you probably ignore it or go hit w/e insulted you, I'd be supprised if 1 in 10 of you instead went to the police to complain that you got insulted.

Of course no one would complain to the police when they get insulted.  It's not against the law.  A better analogy would be if you started using nasty, rude, racist, etc. language to other customers in a restaurant.  You would be kicked out of the restaurant.  With online poker you're not even threatened with being kicked out, but just to not be able to use the chat feature, which doesn't really hurt the offending player anyway.
Anyway, it seems like there are two main problems that some people just don't get when it comes to offensive chat: 1)It's simply rude behavior that lessens the enjoyment of many of the site's customers, and 2)Those customers who are offended or simply have less fun playing poker may choose to stop playing, and therefore giving their money to the site and, most likely, the winning players.  There is no positive when it comes to this bad chat, but there are negatives, so I don't see any good reason to allow this kind of behavior in online poker.

[TwoToGo-Grave]

seriously, you people actually put "not being insulted" over having an idiot at your table.

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That idiot can (with the help of other idiots) drive fish away.  And the idiots who are berating others tend to think they're great players and thus aren't leaving online poker, anyway.  It's not about being thin-skinned (though I don't see how hating slowrollers is any less a case of being thin-skinned), but rather about not wanting to drive away more bad players through being insulted than through chat-bans and the like for the offenders.

[Milo]

Yet another reason to just turn off viewing other player's comments.

Probably what I will do - but I sometimes like to "listen" to what others are saying for some info or just for giggles but felt this crossed the line.

This is exactly the reason I leave player messages on!  These are the type of players that you need to report right away when they say crap like that.  I also ask the site to report back to me on what action was taken on said player.  Another thing is you can take a quick snap shot of the screen and save it so you have proof of what was said in case they claim they can't find it in their server files!  Trust me, I've complained about many idiots online before and I'm sure there will be plenty more.  Just call someone a donkey for calling your all in with their garbage and you find enough people with a loose tongue! 

That player you had should be banned from their site and not allowed to come back.  Comments like that are uncalled for and quite frankly disgusting.  I've recently just finished cancer treatment and hearing someone say something like that would heat me pretty damn good too.  Let us know whether you hear what the outcome was.

DIASAGREEE HUGE WITH THIS

Someone can wish me dead, talk about my mom or how fat my butt is all day long, if it bothers me, I'm the fool for caring what some random jerk has to say.

The guy's with the big mouth or talk random crap trying to offend people like thsi however are IME some of the biggest donks and droolers in the wolrd of gambling, they quit and leave soon enough as it is, I definitly do not want them being banned just cause someone takes offense about some of his comments, grow up IMO.

Grimmers and slowrollers on the other hand should be

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You butt ain't fat . . .

[luckystraights]

Actually I believe insulting someone without provocation comes under assault, at least in the UK.

@austin5string if I don't get it, you equally don't get my stance on it. We are clearly worlds away on this. I would rather strangers insult me then be punished for doing so, in this enviroment under these circumstances I really do not care how rude people speak in chat. It doesn't register has a problem for me, but seeking a ban of these people however does, and I'll deffend there right to have a big mouth and talk rubbish at people way more then I will deffend someone seeking a ban or even punishment on this issue.... well I guess I could concede some manner of infractions would be suitable, keep everyone happy, but banning someone seems rediculous.

[luckystraights]

With online poker you're not even threatened with being kicked out, but just to not be able to use the chat feature, which doesn't really hurt the offending player anyway.

Sure it might not "hurt" the offending arsehole, but if "fixes" or at least "obscures" the problem (he won't be insulting you or anyone else at least for some time), are you not happy with that?

Perhaps everyone screaming for blood here, is really out of shape because your pride got hurt, and you demand recompense and "revenge" because of this.

[Nerre]

I mean if your walking down the street and someone calls you a "insert offensive term", you probably ignore it or go hit w/e insulted you, I'd be supprised if 1 in 10 of you instead went to the police to complain that you got insulted.

But the person on the street has not explicitly agreed to the streets terms and conditions for use...

[luckystraights]

I mean if your walking down the street and someone calls you a "insert offensive term", you probably ignore it or go hit w/e insulted you, I'd be supprised if 1 in 10 of you instead went to the police to complain that you got insulted.

But the person on the street has not explicitly agreed to the streets terms and conditions for use...

don't think that argument will work in court, the law is the law wether u sign or not.