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Martini

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Is there an Omaha (hi only) AAxx hand which is a dog?

« on: Mar 31, 2010 at 00:06 »

My poker buds and I have been talking about the merits of Omaha AAxx hands and the question came up as to whether there is an AAxx hand which is not favored heads up against any other hand other than another AAxx hand. I don't know the answer to this but I know that a middle double suited four card run plays best against AAxx hands. Can anyone come up with an AAxx hand and an opponents hand where the AAxx hand is not favored? You can pick all suits and unassigned ranks.


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Re: Is there an Omaha (hi only) AAxx hand which is a dog?

« Reply #1 on: Mar 31, 2010 at 07:10 »

Easy: AAAA

13th worst hand you can be dealt


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Re: Is there an Omaha (hi only) AAxx hand which is a dog?

« Reply #2 on: Mar 31, 2010 at 09:38 »

Quote from: Dr. Neau on Mar 31, 2010 at 07:10

Easy: AAAA

13th worst hand you can be dealt

True enough. I should have specified that we were talking about only two Aces in Hero's hand and the side cards being non-Aces.


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Re: Is there an Omaha (hi only) AAxx hand which is a dog?

« Reply #3 on: Mar 31, 2010 at 10:21 »


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Re: Is there an Omaha (hi only) AAxx hand which is a dog?

« Reply #4 on: Mar 31, 2010 at 11:09 »

Damn, Wedge, that's ugly.


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Re: Is there an Omaha (hi only) AAxx hand which is a dog?

« Reply #5 on: Mar 31, 2010 at 11:42 »

@Wedge
Looks good! We figured it would have to be something like that. We got close after tinkering around a bit but didn't nail a <50% one. Winner winner chicken dinner!


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Re: Is there an Omaha (hi only) AAxx hand which is a dog?

« Reply #6 on: Mar 31, 2010 at 12:09 »

You could probably get a little better if villain's hand was 4567, because you don't lose a 9 to the hero's hand.

I just made sure it was four-suited and as dis-connected as possible for straight purposes, then filled in a two-suited four-straight hand for the villain.


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Re: Is there an Omaha (hi only) AAxx hand which is a dog?

« Reply #7 on: Mar 31, 2010 at 12:16 »

Yeah, we weren't sure on the side cards. We gave up pretty quickly because all we had was a phone around at the time to figure out odds. We thought that the Deuce would help AAxx make a Wheel but no more so than any other baby card. Moving the run down lower would counterfeit Hero's Wheel I guess.


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Re: Is there an Omaha (hi only) AAxx hand which is a dog?

« Reply #8 on: Apr 02, 2010 at 06:52 »

I guess there aren't a lot of AA hands that aren't favored versus one opponent, but there are a lot that will get bad players stacked after the flop... Roll Eyes


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Re: Is there an Omaha (hi only) AAxx hand which is a dog?

« Reply #9 on: Apr 03, 2010 at 15:30 »

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Re: Is there an Omaha (hi only) AAxx hand which is a dog?

« Reply #10 on: Jun 13, 2010 at 18:52 »

Which equity simulator do you use for Omaha / O8?


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Re: Is there an Omaha (hi only) AAxx hand which is a dog?

« Reply #11 on: Jun 13, 2010 at 19:48 »

Quote from: luckystraights on Jun 13, 2010 at 18:52

Which equity simulator do you use for Omaha / O8?

http://ProPokerTools.com


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Re: Is there an Omaha (hi only) AAxx hand which is a dog?

« Reply #12 on: Jun 13, 2010 at 21:01 »

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-tools/odds-calculator/omaha

Check the 'hi/lo' box near the upper right part of the screen


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Re: Is there an Omaha (hi only) AAxx hand which is a dog?

« Reply #13 on: Jun 14, 2010 at 03:32 »

Thanks.


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