Poker is *beep'ing* hard!

[luckystraights]

Just wanted to share that aha moment. I think I'm miles better then I was when I started playing, even miles better then when I started playing cash, even though I ain't winning much atm, yet there are so many spots that still leave me looking like this 

Too tired to play and I got my arse handed to me because of it just now, so thought I'll start a thread lol, as there is no real content ^^^ how about we share a few of our aha moments in poker.

Here's a few of mine:

1. flatting KK is way way way way way way way way better then 3b'ing if facing a 4b will make your sphincter twitch.

2. choosing to play OOP is like choosing to drive a car with no breaks because its in your favorite color

3. fish and regs alike instinctively try and beat 1 pair way more then they try to get an over pair or TP to fold

4. don't assume a reg is a thinking player, treat him as a tight fish until he proves u wrong

5. avoiding tilt, burnout, stress and having a healthy lifestyle will earn u more at the tables then any single improvement in strategy (beyond the very very basics) ever will

your turn 

[NotFadeAway]

Sorry in advance, but I'm not as succinct as lucky...
-One of the most expensive lessons I ever learned in poker was to NEVER sit at a cash table (in this case 50NL) when it's past 3am and I've been up since 9 or 10am.  I've probably gotten stacked more in the few times playing late at night than all other parts of the day combined.
-Berating a bad player never makes anyone more money.  It costs the person doing the berating very real money, though (as well as costing other players at the table money.)  I never understand why people constantly do this when they have to know they're essentially throwing away money by berating (or taunting) bad players.
-Pride is the most pointless thing that a poker player can have at the table.  It's good to be competitive (and probably necessary to be successful), but being prideful leads to less than optimal decisions and, besides, pride <<<<<<<money when it comes to poker...
-Most players are bad.  That is all (well, I had written a lot more about the different types of bad players, but decided not to post it, as some might have taken offense to it... )
-Playing poker is nothing more than making decisions and playing situations.  Thinking it's more than that, such as some show of macho-ness, is bound to be expensive.

I hope what I wrote is in the spirit of this thread lucky.  I would write quicker, wittier points, I am not, in fact, quick or witty.

[luckystraights]

-One of the most expensive lessons I ever learned in poker was to NEVER sit at a cash table (in this case 50NL) when it's past 3am and I've been up since 9 or 10am.  I've probably gotten stacked more in the few times playing late at night than all other parts of the day combined.

That is so true, I really wanted to book another session, despite being really pleased with my performance for the day, then I drop 3 BI's and have to cooler someone to pull one big in a little over 30 minuites, shame, all for a few measly vpp's.

I need to sort my life out so I'm not so tired after 3 or 4 hours that I can't play another session.

You did a dam fine job lol.

[FSL009]

what I really hate is that you start a session and get KK or AA and get stacked and then chasing your tail for the rest of the sesson which you would have played anyway, but evenutally you get close and you call it a night and you have played 400 or 500 hands four tabling to find out that you won a $1.

All because of the fn bad beat at the start of the session. 

last night I had 10s against a short staker that went all in, he had KK both over pairs so I am prone to calling shorties with 10s + most of the time i win cause thye have AK or AQ and are trying to make a play.

the very next hand I get JJ raise 3xBB and same shortie goes all in with $9 after taking me for 44.50 with the KK hand...im like well easy money coming home so i call.  he had AA...just becuase their a short staker doesnt mean they cant play good hands the same way they play AQ.

A decision to fold is just a decision, it doesnt mean anything about how good or bad you are...

[luckystraights]

what I really hate is that you start a session and get KK or AA and get stacked and then chasing your tail for the rest of the sesson which you would have played anyway, but evenutally you get close and you call it a night and you have played 400 or 500 hands four tabling to find out that you won a $1.

All because of the fn bad beat at the start of the session. 

last night I had 10s against a short staker that went all in, he had KK both over pairs so I am prone to calling shorties with 10s + most of the time i win cause thye have AK or AQ and are trying to make a play.

the very next hand I get JJ raise 3xBB and same shortie goes all in with $9 after taking me for 44.50 with the KK hand...im like well easy money coming home so i call.  he had AA...just becuase their a short staker doesnt mean they cant play good hands the same way they play AQ.

A decision to fold is just a decision, it doesnt mean anything about how good or bad you are...

most short stacks are very nitty, or play atc ime

[NotFadeAway]

what I really hate is that you start a session and get KK or AA and get stacked and then chasing your tail for the rest of the sesson which you would have played anyway, but evenutally you get close and you call it a night and you have played 400 or 500 hands four tabling to find out that you won a $1.

All because of the fn bad beat at the start of the session. 

last night I had 10s against a short staker that went all in, he had KK both over pairs so I am prone to calling shorties with 10s + most of the time i win cause thye have AK or AQ and are trying to make a play.

the very next hand I get JJ raise 3xBB and same shortie goes all in with $9 after taking me for 44.50 with the KK hand...im like well easy money coming home so i call.  he had AA...just becuase their a short staker doesnt mean they cant play good hands the same way they play AQ.

A decision to fold is just a decision, it doesnt mean anything about how good or bad you are...

most short stacks are very nitty, or play atc ime

Much agreed.

[FSL009]

that 44.50 = $4.50

anyway...lol.

yeah I hate the fact that I can not limp call with 22-99 agaisnt a short stacking player...but I just can not get enough 50BB min tables on the site I use - poker stars here I come...lol.

[Mezza Morta]

I hate the fact that I can not limp call with 22-99 agaisnt a short stacking player...but I just can not get enough 50BB min tables on the site I use - poker stars here I come...lol.

Yeah 50BB tables are the way to go. If you're full stacked and have 2-3 shorties (~20bb) sitting to your left, leave the table immediately unless they are those 6/4 nits, in which case attempt a steal with ATC. But seriously, don't limp your pairs, especially if you're playing 6max. There's much more value/profit in raising than limp/calling. I guess its profitable at NL2 and NL5 but beyond that you're spewing chips.

[TwoToGo-Grave]

Yeah 50BB tables are the way to go. If you're full stacked and have 2-3 shorties (~20bb) sitting to your left, leave the table immediately unless they are those 6/4 nits, in which case attempt a steal with ATC. But seriously, don't limp your pairs, especially if you're playing 6max. There's much more value/profit in raising than limp/calling. I guess its profitable at NL2 and NL5 but beyond that you're spewing chips.

Excellent advice, certainly.

[FSL009]

I have to date played full ring only really. except i like 6 max PLO for some reason.

Anyway i have recently mvoed to 6-max and definatley my game style is more attuned to raiising pairs even down to 22 cause youo just going to get raised anyway...so your stuck then not knowing if they are playing carp or AA.

Still has not turned my winnings around, the players are definately better at 6-max and find it easier to throw a hand before the river even the second nuts...which has to be too tight i reckon but maybe they know something i dont

[luckystraights]

but maybe they know something i dont

Most serious regs will play with a hud, if your playing tight or getting to the river tight, u won't get much action and they'll make big folds.

There are nits in fr for eg who I will fold bottom set to.

[FSL009]

yeah agreed lucky

I play with a HUD as well.

Although at the end of the day the ranges of most villians at my stacks are so wide that I should beat most of them even playing at 30 VPIP.

Anyway...

[dugthefish]

@lucky:  just off on a tangent here, but is there someplace i can go n get definitions on some of the anachronisms that fly around in here?  i find most of your posts smart and useful, but i dont always get it all...lol

There are nits in fr for eg who I will fold bottom set to.

[NotFadeAway]

@lucky:  just off on a tangent here, but is there someplace i can go n get definitions on some of the anachronisms that fly around in here?  i find most of your posts smart and useful, but i dont always get it all...lol

There are nits in fr for eg who I will fold bottom set to.

I know that the 'fr'=full ring, but I'm not sure myself about the 'eg'.

[dugthefish]

lol i feel like an idiot sometimes, but theres gotta be, like, an online dictionary of this stuff somewhere...

[djexacto]

fr= full ring, eg= example

http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Number=5988672
http://www.twoplustwo.com/acronyms.php

[Dr. Neau]

@lucky:  just off on a tangent here, but is there someplace i can go n get definitions on some of the anachronisms that fly around in here?  i find most of your posts smart and useful, but i dont always get it all...lol

n???

[dugthefish]

lol leave it to the doc...

[luckystraights]

lol leave it to the doc...

Appreciate the post love, I ussually try my best :-)

For poker abbreviations there is a thread on 2p2 which appears to be pretty extensive. Any abbreviations I use will probably be featured here, or there will be derivatives or synonymous of what is listed in here.

http://www.twoplustwo.com/acronyms.php

EDIT: 2p2 link is same as posted ^^^

[dugthefish]

thx lucky, that is exactly what i was looking for.

[dugthefish]

oops, i mean thanks

[holdemholmes]

oops, i mean thanks

yea, I'd be careful with your n's and thx's....the dr. is watching 

[dugthefish]

yeah, he's everywhere...it's scary...