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« Reply #50 on: Oct 20, 2008 at 14:10 »

I've never cared much for the denominations printed on the rolling edge of chips. They give a chip a "right side up" and an "upside down" and that stuff bugs me when I have chips stacked up. It also makes the chip less international which would be a shame since there is no currency symbol on them and they could be used worldwide.

I kind of like the denoms on the rolling edge; I see what you mean about the upside down text thingy, but that's never been an issue for me.  Besides, it makes up for a lack of edgespots here.

But I way don't understand your. last comment.  How would having the exact same value written on the edge in longhand that's on the face in shorthand, make the chip "less international"?  Hmmm...unless you mean that it's in English, which is really no different than having English text on the face.
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« Reply #51 on: Oct 20, 2008 at 14:23 »

I've never cared much for the denominations printed on the rolling edge of chips. They give a chip a "right side up" and an "upside down" and that stuff bugs me when I have chips stacked up. It also makes the chip less international which would be a shame since there is no currency symbol on them and they could be used worldwide.

I kind of like the denoms on the rolling edge; I see what you mean about the upside down text thingy, but that's never been an issue for me.  Besides, it makes up for a lack of edgespots here.

But I way don't understand your. last comment.  How would having the exact same value written on the edge in longhand that's on the face in shorthand, make the chip "less international"?  Hmmm...unless you mean that it's in English, which is really no different than having English text on the face.

I love the chips. I hate the writing on the edge of the chip. Its to distracting to me.

I don't understand the "international" comment as well. Explain it to this simple folk.

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« Reply #52 on: Oct 20, 2008 at 15:07 »

Which manufacturer printed these?  I would be interested in seeing samples from a few different ones, notably, ABC.
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« Reply #53 on: Oct 20, 2008 at 15:17 »

Hi all,

Thank you for your thoughts - we've never made chips before so there is a learning curve for us. Here are some specific questions:

1. I think Martini's comment is that the text on the edge is in English and accordingly that may make them less appealing in countries where English is not spoken. The two alternatives are (a) stripes and (b) some type of pattern around the edge. Any preferences?

2. Someone suggested changing the 1/4 chip back to yellow, making the 1K chip orange, and then making the 20 chip pink. (Actually the pink is supposed to be called "rose"). What do you think of that?

3. Yes, the colors shifted, but it was intentional. We realized that "pure" tones would printer better - the printing process shifts to dark and makes the colors look a little muddy. The color under the "legs" was changed to gold to make them easier to see.

4. Below is a potential dealer button design:



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« Reply #54 on: Oct 20, 2008 at 15:22 »

Hi all,

Thank you for your thoughts - we've never made chips before so there is a learning curve for us. Here are some specific questions:

1. I think Martini's comment is that the text on the edge is in English and accordingly that may make them less appealing in countries where English is not spoken. The two alternatives are (a) stripes and (b) some type of pattern around the edge. Any preferences?  Either would be better than printing on the edge

2. Someone suggested changing the 1/4 chip back to yellow, making the 1K chip orange, and then making the 20 chip pink. (Actually the pink is supposed to be called "rose"). What do you think of that?  Initially I liked the way the colors flowed, but I can see players confusing the 1/4 and the 5 dollar chips. They are pretty close in color. The change would probably be for the best.

3. Yes, the colors shifted, but it was intentional. We realized that "pure" tones would printer better - the printing process shifts to dark and makes the colors look a little muddy. The color under the "legs" was changed to gold to make them easier to see.

4. Below is a potential dealer button design:



Best,

aF

The dealer button is just damn sexy.
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« Reply #55 on: Oct 20, 2008 at 15:37 »

I've never cared much for the denominations printed on the rolling edge of chips. They give a chip a "right side up" and an "upside down" and that stuff bugs me when I have chips stacked up. It also makes the chip less international which would be a shame since there is no currency symbol on them and they could be used worldwide.

I kind of like the denoms on the rolling edge; I see what you mean about the upside down text thingy, but that's never been an issue for me.  Besides, it makes up for a lack of edgespots here.

But I way don't understand your. last comment.  How would having the exact same value written on the edge in longhand that's on the face in shorthand, make the chip "less international"?  Hmmm...unless you mean that it's in English, which is really no different than having English text on the face.

I love the chips. I hate the writing on the edge of the chip. Its to distracting to me.

I don't understand the "international" comment as well. Explain it to this simple folk.

B

Yes, as Trident Cards surmised, I think the use of the English words on the edge make it less international since there are plenty of countries which use "1234567890" for numbers but do not use English.

As for the rolling edge, I think shades of the base color (similar to the different values on the face) would work.

I also just noticed the "1K" chip. I think that using "1K" instead of "1000" is a diversion from the classic look of the chip and the use of the "1/4" on the Quarter chip. I also know that "K" is not universal in all areas since "G" and "M" are also used to denote thousands. I would think "1000" would be more in keeping with the spirit of the chips.

I agree with DD that the dealer button looks very sharp.
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« Reply #56 on: Oct 20, 2008 at 15:47 »


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I also just noticed the "1K" chip. I think that using "1K" instead of "1000" is a diversion from the classic look of the chip and the use of the "1/4" on the Quarter chip. I also know that "K" is not universal in all areas since "G" and "M" are also used to denote thousands. I would think "1000" would be more in keeping with the spirit of the chips.

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I didn't even notice that. Good catch. I completely agree!!!
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« Reply #57 on: Oct 20, 2008 at 15:48 »

These go into production I might have to sell the 1/2 set that I bought (but don't even own yet) to get these............ Grin   

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« Reply #58 on: Oct 20, 2008 at 16:12 »

Initially I liked the way the colors flowed, but I can see players confusing the 1/4 and the 5 dollar chips. They are pretty close in color. The change would probably be for the best.

Initially, I agreed; but on second thought, the same problem would exist whether the rose was 1/4 and the red was 5, or the red was 5 and the rose was 20.  They'd likely be in the same pot at some point, and hard to discern. 

So on third thought, I'd make the 1/4 arc yellow, the 20 orange, and the 1K rose.  And speaking of the 1K...

I also just noticed the "1K" chip. I think that using "1K" instead of "1000" is a diversion from the classic look of the chip and the use of the "1/4" on the Quarter chip. I also know that "K" is not universal in all areas since "G" and "M" are also used to denote thousands. I would think "1000" would be more in keeping with the spirit of the chips.

I disagree; and in fact, I see the 1K as specifically being a nod to the 1/4 chip, not a distraction from it.  Also, the chips appear to be a move away from the standard/classic (and to me, boring as hell) cookie cutter traditional chips of yore.  And while I understand that K isn't necessarily universal, I think it's used enough to be understood fairly easily.

And I, too, think the button is just plain damn sexy.
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« Reply #59 on: Oct 20, 2008 at 17:52 »

@Midnight Rose
What I meant by "classic" was old fashioned as opposed to traditional poker chip convention. I get the sense of these chips being reminiscent of ancient Egypt with the scarab motif which is why I think the "1/4" seems so much more fitting than ".25". Likewise, I think 1000 fits more with that era more than "1K" would. Just my 2/100.
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« Reply #60 on: Oct 20, 2008 at 19:37 »


So on third thought, I'd make the 1/4 arc yellow, the 20 orange, and the 1K rose.  And speaking of the 1K...


And I, too, think the button is just plain damn sexy.

I agree with both of these comments....if these are reasonably priced, put me down for a cash set.
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« Reply #61 on: Oct 20, 2008 at 19:51 »

1. I think Martini's comment is that the text on the edge is in English and accordingly that may make them less appealing in countries where English is not spoken. The two alternatives are (a) stripes and (b) some type of pattern around the edge. Any preferences?

My general dislike of edgespots notwithstanding, if you're going to go that route, be careful to not associate the edges with the faces AT ALL.  By that I mean, keep the ring around the outside of the face as it is, so that the spots ("stripes") on the rolling edges don't need to be aligned (which would mean the chip would end up costing more). 
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« Reply #62 on: Oct 20, 2008 at 19:54 »

Well, the 20 already is orange, so what I'm hearing is reverse the 1/4 and 1K? Everyone on board with that? I kinda like the idea of turning the 1K into M (for Martini and Midnight), because it is a little more abstract and it would give folks the choice of replacing the 1/4 with the M. aF
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« Reply #63 on: Oct 20, 2008 at 19:55 »

On the stripes, leaning more towards a pattern than stripes. aF
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« Reply #64 on: Oct 20, 2008 at 20:14 »

Well, the 20 already is orange, so what I'm hearing is reverse the 1/4 and 1K?

I'd be careful there.  The 1/4 and 500 are pretty close in color.  That would put the 2 colors (500 & 1000) in play on the table at the same time.
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« Reply #65 on: Oct 20, 2008 at 20:17 »

Or we can make the 1/4 white  Wink
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« Reply #66 on: Oct 20, 2008 at 20:36 »

Or we can make the 1/4 white  Wink

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« Reply #67 on: Oct 21, 2008 at 00:55 »

Under the assumption that the 20s and 25s would never be in play at the same time they could both be the same color, no? Just saying...
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« Reply #68 on: Oct 21, 2008 at 11:04 »

I'd "pink up" the one quarter...  more pink, less rose.

As for rolling edge text making an "up" side, just put the text right side up, then upside down, then rightside up then upside down (depending on how many times its printed...  Then there is no upside.

I don't like 1M for 1000...  Some here might think 1 million...  but these are your chips, do whatever *you* like...  don't worry about making the appeal to the masses.
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« Reply #69 on: Oct 21, 2008 at 15:25 »

I'd "pink up" the one quarter...  more pink, less rose.

As for rolling edge text making an "up" side, just put the text right side up, then upside down, then rightside up then upside down (depending on how many times its printed...  Then there is no upside.

This is the idea I like.
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« Reply #70 on: Oct 21, 2008 at 23:45 »

I'd "pink up" the one quarter...  more pink, less rose.

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One can never have enough rose.

(Though I like Martini's idea about making the 20 and 25 both green, thereby freeing up orange for the 1/4).

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As for rolling edge text making an "up" side, just put the text right side up, then upside down, then rightside up then upside down (depending on how many times its printed...  Then there is no upside.

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I don't like 1M for 1000...  Some here might think 1 million... 

x20000.  1K would be much, much better than 1M.
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« Reply #71 on: Oct 22, 2008 at 00:07 »

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I don't like 1M for 1000...  Some here might think 1 million... 

x20000.  1K would be much, much better than 1M.

The 1,000 does say 1K (not 1M)
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« Reply #72 on: Oct 22, 2008 at 03:24 »

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I don't like 1M for 1000...  Some here might think 1 million... 

x20000.  1K would be much, much better than 1M.

The 1,000 does say 1K (not 1M)

...I kinda like the idea of turning the 1K into M (for Martini and Midnight), because it is a little more abstract and it would give folks the choice of replacing the 1/4 with the M. aF
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« Reply #73 on: Oct 22, 2008 at 08:21 »

Ahaaa.  I must have been distracted by the colors
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« Reply #74 on: Oct 22, 2008 at 22:47 »

Have you worked up a price for these?

I'd really think about buying them as my first set if the price is right.
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« Reply #75 on: Nov 04, 2008 at 11:58 »

We're working on pricing. Revisions are done.
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« Reply #76 on: Nov 04, 2008 at 12:06 »

And what loverly, loverly chips they are.  Can't wait to play show and tell with hackckckck this weekend.
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