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« on: Jul 24, 2008 at 23:32 »

I guess this is either yet one more set of rules or a new uber-set of rules. Marcel Luske and Micelle Lau have created the Federation Internationale de Poker Association (FIDPA) and the new "International Poker Rules" for tournament play which is supposed to standardize tourneys worldwide. The 80 rule set was created with cooperation from, among others, the TDA, Robert Ciaffone, Jack McClelland, and Doug Dalton of the Bellagio. The way it works is that poker rooms are endorsed by the FIDPA, Bellagio being the first one.

And perplexingly enough, they have made this announcement, certified a casino, yet they do not have their website live (http://www.fidpa.com/) and I don't see links to their set of rules anywhere.

Link to their announcement: http://www.marcelluske.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=228
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« Reply #1 on: Jul 25, 2008 at 02:55 »

how bogus. this guy has been working on the site for over a year and it's still not up? wtf is with Luske?
until i see the rules, they don't exist. way to launch something and not be ready for it, Marcel.
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« Reply #2 on: Jul 25, 2008 at 03:28 »

The announcement (placed on July 19th 2008) mentions the site will go live near the end of 2008.

Since Bob Ciaffone is involved with the rules, I'm sure they'll turn out fine Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: Jul 25, 2008 at 12:30 »

The announcement (placed on July 19th 2008) mentions the site will go live near the end of 2008.

Since Bob Ciaffone is involved with the rules, I'm sure they'll turn out fine Smiley

Yeah, I read the part about the website going live later this year. But I find it ridiculous that they are promoting this new standard yet don't have them published anywhere (that I can find). They even say that Bellagio has started using them as of July 11 so they presumably have to be available somewhere. I have no doubt that the rule set is going to be fine but what good are rules that nobody can see?
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« Reply #4 on: Jul 25, 2008 at 13:07 »

Hey, guys.  C'mon.  Aren't we being a little unfair?

It's a lot of work to register a domain name, create the website, type up pages and pages of content...I mean, the whole process could take multiple days from start to finish.

Lighten up.
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« Reply #5 on: Jul 25, 2008 at 13:32 »

Hey, guys.  C'mon.  Aren't we being a little unfair?

It's a lot of work to register a domain name, create the website, type up pages and pages of content...I mean, the whole process could take multiple days from start to finish.

Lighten up.

Or HOURS even! What's wrong with putting them in the bulletin board where they have their announcement? Right next to all of the requests for copies of the new set of rules?
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« Reply #6 on: Jul 26, 2008 at 14:05 »

Well done Lüske, typical Amsterdam: all talk, but failure to deliver Tongue
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« Reply #7 on: Jul 26, 2008 at 19:20 »

Having come from a background in MTG the lack of posted rules at poker tournaments really rubs me the wrong way.
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« Reply #8 on: Jul 30, 2008 at 12:14 »

I made an email enquiry to the Bellagio a few days ago asking for a copy of their rules. I received this reply today, interestingly NOT from the Bellagio:
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Hi Chris,
 
In response to your email, the website www.theiprules.com will be launching in the next few weeks,  by the end of August.
Please visit the site for a full version of the rules along with other useful information.
 
Thank you for your email.
 

michelle lau

MICHELLE LAU

FEDERATION INTERNATIONALE DE POKER ASSOCIATION

FIDPA.COM@gmail.com
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« Reply #9 on: Apr 21, 2009 at 17:31 »

Ummm...yeah. So about that new set of rules. I think we can conclude that this set of rules isn't going to happen. Or at least not publicly? Still have no idea how the Bellagio could have been using a set of rules that no one has access to.
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« Reply #10 on: Apr 22, 2009 at 01:23 »

Wow, what made you dig this up? lol

Good point. I haven't heard anything more about it. A quick google of the FIDPA and "International Poker Rules" brings up no new news at all.
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« Reply #11 on: Apr 22, 2009 at 01:32 »

Wow, what made you dig this up? lol

Good point. I haven't heard anything more about it. A quick google of the FIDPA and "International Poker Rules" brings up no new news at all.

What? Doesn't everyone do regular 9 month check ups on old threads? Wink Actually I was doing a search for a different thread and ran across this one then said "Hey, that's right. What ever happened to that new rule set that was supposed to be rolled out but never seemed to make it?" and sure enough I did some searching and it appears this thing is toast. Not a big deal, I'm really liking the WPA rule set that I only recently found (http://www.wpapoker.org/?sect=rules&pg=tournament-rules). Just kinda irks me that an organization would form rules, start using them, then never make them available. That is one step worse than announcing that you are going to publish a rule set but never making them in the first place.
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« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2011 at 15:56 »

Well, after a whole two years, I can drag this topic back up. I was notified yesterday that the the FIDPA has released their "International Poker Rules". Now it may have been released previous to now and I just didn't know about it (the cover page has a copyright of 2009 on it) but if it was just released in the last few days, that's two full years after they said it would be released and after the Bellagio had supposedly adopted them.

I'm still reading and looking for changes.

www.fidpa.com
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« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2011 at 18:02 »

I take back everything I said between 2008 and 2009 about this rule set not existing. I guess I just was being hasty. My bad.
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« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2011 at 18:08 »

So if you want the PDF version of the rules you have to give them your name and email and then they send you an email with a link that is only good for 60 minutes. What a joke! "Hey, let's become the new standard in poker rules by trying to keep anyone from conveniently getting a copy of them!"
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« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2011 at 18:53 »

It's a pretty thorough set of rules that leans heavily on TDA, but I have yet to see anywhere any reference to RROP.

I also found the 1 hour time limit silly. What are they trying to do with that?
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« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2011 at 22:48 »

It's a pretty thorough set of rules that leans heavily on TDA, but I have yet to see anywhere any reference to RROP.

I also found the 1 hour time limit silly. What are they trying to do with that?

Not sure what you are referring to...yet. Of course they set up the site so as to make it impossible to do a search. And the terms and conditions to use their rule set are longer than the TDA's entire rule set (that's pretty close to not even exaggerating). Ridiculous.
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« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2011 at 23:02 »

......Of course they set up the site so as to make it impossible to do a search. And the terms and conditions to use their rule set are longer than the TDA's entire rule set (that's pretty close to not even exaggerating). Ridiculous......

I like Bob Ciaffone's conditions better:

"You can view, copy, and use the best set of cardroom poker rules in the world, all at no charge"
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« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2011 at 14:29 »

I added the FIDPA link to my Poker Rules page. I'm not going to bother contacting them to see if they would allow me to post their rules because it is obvious that they charge for use of their rules (a $1,000 onetime charge and $1,000 or $500 per year).

Why pay $1,000 per year for something that you can get for free from several other places? RROP, the TDA rules, and my poker rule books cost nothing other than the paper you print them on.

My only concern is that others will soon start charging for their poker rules.

Good luck, nutn
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« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2011 at 17:00 »

I added the FIDPA link to my Poker Rules page. I'm not going to bother contacting them to see if they would allow me to post their rules because it is obvious that they charge for use of their rules (a $1,000 onetime charge and $1,000 or $500 per year).

Why pay $1,000 per year for something that you can get for free from several other places? RROP, the TDA rules, and my poker rule books cost nothing other than the paper you print them on.

My only concern is that others will soon start charging for their poker rules.

Good luck, nutn


Then we'll start our own open source rules.
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« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2011 at 23:11 »

I added the FIDPA link to my Poker Rules page. I'm not going to bother contacting them to see if they would allow me to post their rules because it is obvious that they charge for use of their rules (a $1,000 onetime charge and $1,000 or $500 per year).

Why pay $1,000 per year for something that you can get for free from several other places? RROP, the TDA rules, and my poker rule books cost nothing other than the paper you print them on.

My only concern is that others will soon start charging for their poker rules.

Good luck, nutn


Then we'll start our own open source rules.

exactly!  The Standard HPT Poker Tournament Rules Set
Make it happen Nutn.  lol
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« Reply #21 on: Jun 03, 2011 at 05:44 »

 I have  visited the site and find it really informative and beneficial. The site explores various quality standards used or applied at international level for playing online poker games.
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