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« Reply #1 on: Jul 10, 2005 at 07:10 » |
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I have been wondering the same thing for a while now. I wrote an email to the company and I got a auto response back saying he is on vacation and will be back on the 18 of July. So hopefully we will find out by then if not sooner.
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« Reply #2 on: Jul 10, 2005 at 13:53 » |
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I just finished my first table last week with my father in law. It came out pretty nice and we are looking to make a second table but to take things a step further. Maybe including lights and if possible that Shuffle Master Deck Mate. Let me know if you here anything.
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« Reply #3 on: Jul 11, 2005 at 12:21 » |
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I've did some research on the shuffle master and "heard" that they are leased to the casinos but prices may start in the 5 digit range.
This is just word of mouth information so don't take it to heart.
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« Reply #4 on: Jul 11, 2005 at 12:35 » |
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Ouch. Thats pretty pricey. It would be nice to have though. I know if I walked into a regular home game and saw a table with the shuffle master I would know I was walking into a real game.
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« Reply #5 on: Jul 11, 2005 at 16:06 » |
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It seems by the web site, this is not even available for not casino purchase:
"Shuffle Master, Inc. is a licensed gaming supply company which provides products to casino customers. Due to the fact Shuffle Master is in a highly regulated industry, it is the Company's policy not to sell our equipment to unlicensed individuals or organizations. At this time, Shuffle Master does not offer a consumer-model shuffler."
Even if it was, it looks like it would be quite expensive for a home poker table.
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« Reply #7 on: Jul 23, 2005 at 09:00 » |
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My guess would be that ShuffleMaster wants to be able to tell the Casinos (thier biggest clients) that since these are not available to the public there is no way to rig one for cheating.
In thoery if I bought one of these and took it apart I could possibly figure out how it shuffles and then use that to an advantage when playing against the Casino.
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« Reply #8 on: Jul 23, 2005 at 13:39 » |
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It shuffles by reading every card as it checks the deck for all 52 cards. When it reads each specific card the computer's random number generator then assigns the card a specific spot in the deck. The counted deck then moves up and down in the shuffler placing each card in its previously assigned position. That's basically how the shufflemaster works, much like its 6 deck blackjack counterpart also offered by DeckMate.
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« Reply #9 on: Jul 24, 2005 at 15:34 » |
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wow, no wonder it cost so damn much.......
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« Reply #10 on: Sep 03, 2005 at 08:09 » |
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I wasn't aware that it actually read each card...
I'd be happy with one of the older shufflemasters...
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« Reply #11 on: Sep 03, 2005 at 12:28 » |
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Hi Guys,
Shufflemaster will sell only to folks that have a gaming license, no public sales. Another thing that sucks is that they police the web religiously so it's very hard to find a used one. Sucks for us who have home games but anyone that works in random-ness will tell you that nothing is random and if someone got one of these to study they could cripple a casino.
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« Reply #12 on: Jun 12, 2006 at 22:04 » |
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Shufflemaster is now available to the public. From the corporate site......"Shuffle Master, Inc. is a licensed gaming supply company that provides products to casino customers. Due to the fact Shuffle Master is in a highly regulated industry, we generally do not sell our equipment to unlicensed individuals or organizations however, we have recently begun offering our Deck Mate® poker shuffler for private purchase and use for $14,795. Not available for purchase in Colorado, New Jersey, Washington or Texas."
Holy Moly $14,795
I really thought one would be a sharp item for my home games - considered paying couple hundred bucks for one.
Someday..........
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« Reply #13 on: Jun 12, 2006 at 22:24 » |
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You can save $14,000 by buying pre-shuffled cards found at all fine retailers. Yes, they started selling to the public 3 or 4 months ago, yes they are $15,000. No, I will not be getting one.
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« Reply #14 on: Jun 13, 2006 at 11:52 » |
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key word "at this time" That means theres still a chance! Spoken like a true gambling degenerate. [insert smiley here] |
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« Reply #15 on: Jun 13, 2006 at 12:34 » |
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Maybe we can get them down to 10k if we do a group buy. :-)
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« Reply #16 on: Jun 15, 2006 at 08:48 » |
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wow, I just got done building a poker table and this was the first thought that came to my mind. I was really considering it till I saw the price for myself on their website. Why do you guys think its so regulated? Could it be used for any mischievery?
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« Reply #17 on: Jun 15, 2006 at 09:35 » |
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wow, I just got done building a poker table and this was the first thought that came to my mind. I was really considering it till I saw the price for myself on their website. Why do you guys think its so regulated? Could it be used for any mischievery?
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wow, I just got done building a poker table and this was the first thought that came to my mind. I was really considering it till I saw the price for myself on their website. Why do you guys think its so regulated? Could it be used for any mischievery?
You fools! If the terrorists get their hands on that technology, no one will be safe! So, if someone with 72o calls my huge button re-raise and hits, does that mean The Terrorists Have Won? |
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« Reply #19 on: Jun 15, 2006 at 10:43 » |
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wow, I just got done building a poker table and this was the first thought that came to my mind. I was really considering it till I saw the price for myself on their website. Why do you guys think its so regulated? Could it be used for any mischievery?
I know of at least one casino that has them, and they did not pay for the hardware. Instead, they ding the casino a recurring fee (don't know if it is per shuffle, per month, or what). Usually when a business model is designed to generate recurring income they will make you pay through the teeth if you want to break that stream of income off from them. Also, as their main customer base is casinos, there is probably concern about some evil techie (like myself) getting their hands on it and either reverse engineering it and competing with them or cracking their "shuffle" algorithm. This would allow someone to compromise the integrity of a casino's poker room, which would ultimately result in the removal of the devices, and loss of business. -- JL |
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« Reply #20 on: Jun 15, 2006 at 14:49 » |
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So, if someone with 72o calls my huge button re-raise and hits, does that mean The Terrorists Have Won? I'll have to remember that excuse next time I lose an all-in. |
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« Reply #21 on: Sep 17, 2009 at 07:58 » |
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don't you think that it is much cheaper to make such table by your own? I guess it is about couple of months.
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« Reply #22 on: Sep 17, 2009 at 08:40 » |
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dont you know there is a home version of the thing... not made by the same company but heres a link: http://www.shuffletech.com/ I think a couple of the sellers on here sell it. |
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« Reply #23 on: Sep 17, 2009 at 09:46 » |
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dont you know there is a home version of the thing... not made by the same company but heres a link: http://www.shuffletech.com/ I think a couple of the sellers on here sell it. I have it on sale for$459.99 until the end of the month (10% more off that with the HPT discount). |
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« Reply #24 on: Sep 17, 2009 at 14:40 » |
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don't you think that it is much cheaper to make such table by your own? I guess it is about couple of months.
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« Reply #25 on: Sep 17, 2009 at 19:13 » |
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I didnt realize it was that old... I just replied to it.
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« Reply #26 on: Sep 17, 2009 at 19:46 » |
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LOL - I do that all the time on other forums. I need to start looking at dates.
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