Looking for views on 2 hands I think I played badly

[luckystraights]

Here I make a full house 7's full of 8's on the river, but anyone slow playing an 8, has now made 8's full of 7's.

I wouldn't normally raise because of this, and didn't realized my mistake until after I had raised, hoping, the flush potential made me think for a moment a small raise was good here to try and extract more value from a flush, but if he moved in on me or made a huge re-raise I would think to lay it down, I should have just called and hoped the short stacked also called behind and took it to showdown, whats peoples views on this please ?

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Here, I hold pocket T's and think I played it awfully, I'll go through my thoughts on the hand.

I was happy to limp in here and take a look at the flop, and this was a good flop for me, I had an over pair, although only just.

I didn't have a many chips to waste at this point, so I call a limp on the flop, looking for a cheap showdown, there a minimum raise, which I called without much thought, thinking he had hit top pair, maybe with A9 and wanted to raise and did so weakly.

I think this was my second mistake, I should have raised on the flop, making it at least 300 to go, but I was low on chips in with my small pair decided a limp was the right move. The re-raise was a show of  strength and he shouldn't be doing this with just top pair being that he was so low on chips, so I should have folded on the flop to his raise even if it was only a minimum raise.

The check on the turn probably threw me a little, I wanted a cheap showdown but with the pot so big I felt I had to call his bet on the river.

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[NotFadeAway]

I would favor betting the turn on the first hand.  No one has shown any strength yet, so your 7 is likely good.  If you get raised you're probably drawing dead anyway, so it's unlikely that you've lost anything.  As you played it, raising the river looks good.
On the second hand, you really soft played a good hand, and it's a good thing you did.  You're going to lose some chips here, so just be happy that the dude with queens didn't try to win the maximum.  By all rights he should have doubled up here, so good job of keeping the pot small (assuming that this was your goal in playing soft with the tens) and not letting him win more of your chips.

[Dr. Neau]

Don't know if I'm a fan of the raise in the full house hand...because I think it can only hurt.

The other person bet out.

Let's assume the other person has a flush...
- If you call, you win.
- If you raise, they are going to fold anyway because you don't call a with a flush and two pair on the board.

Let's assume the other person has sevens full
- If you call, you chop.
- If you raise, they might fold, but probably not.  They might call, in which case you chop and the raise was pointless.  They might reraise in which case you have a decision.

Let's assume the other person has eights full
- If you call, you lose what's already in there.
- If you raise...you're going to not only lose that reraise but you'll have a decision to make on what to do with their reraise.

I've learned a lot (the hard way) about raising on the river without the nuts.  I forget who's book it was, but they spent a fair amount of time talking about this very topic.

In general, when the only hands that call (or raise) you are hands that are going to beat you, don't raise on the river...

[Martini]

For Sevens full, NFA has a good point, if no one is going to protect their hand against a draw heavy board like that then your Seven is likely good. Personally if it's the BB I don't care to get too invested in the hand and will gladly take down a pot by showing the sucker end of a boat. A raise *might* get some extra money out of a flush but you're stuck in a bad spot if a raise comes back to you.

The guy flat called with Queens pre-flop in a multiway pot and gave a free card on the turn too? Wow, he's just itching to get his pair cracked. I would prefer to find out earlier than later if your hand is good. You lead out on the flop and get a silly min-raise. If someone has me beat I'd rather find out here by re-raising. If someone is playing QQ that meekly then a re-raise might scare them that you have a set. What does flat calling accomplish other than giving you a hard decision. Even if a T comes out to set you up that just completed a potential straight.

[luckystraights]

Don't know if I'm a fan of the raise in the full house hand...because I think it can only hurt.

The other person bet out.

Let's assume the other person has a flush...
- If you call, you win.
- If you raise, they are going to fold anyway because you don't call a with a flush and two pair on the board.

Let's assume the other person has sevens full
- If you call, you chop.
- If you raise, they might fold, but probably not.  They might call, in which case you chop and the raise was pointless.  They might reraise in which case you have a decision.

Let's assume the other person has eights full
- If you call, you lose what's already in there.
- If you raise...you're going to not only lose that reraise but you'll have a decision to make on what to do with their reraise.

I've learned a lot (the hard way) about raising on the river without the nuts.  I forget who's book it was, but they spent a fair amount of time talking about this very topic.

In general, when the only hands that call (or raise) you are hands that are going to beat you, don't raise on the river...

Your feeling on the hand, is exactly why I posted for some input, I would never usually raise with little full on the river, and did so here, quickly realizing I did something I wouldn't normally do.

I keep warning my friend not to re-raise on the river, when he's only getting called by a hand that beats is, this time I made that mistake myself.

[luckystraights]

The guy flat called with Queens pre-flop in a multiway pot and gave a free card on the turn too? Wow, he's just itching to get his pair cracked. I would prefer to find out earlier than later if your hand is good. You lead out on the flop and get a silly min-raise. If someone has me beat I'd rather find out here by re-raising. If someone is playing QQ that meekly then a re-raise might scare them that you have a set. What does flat calling accomplish other than giving you a hard decision. Even if a T comes out to set you up that just completed a potential straight.

That was my feel after the hand. I should have raised on the flop to try and pick it up there.

Thanks for all the feedback